Women’s 8.5 in men’s, men’s 7 in women’s
A women’s US 8.5 is a men’s US 7 by the standard size tables, and a men’s 7 is a women’s 8.5: women’s sizes run 1½ above men’s.
UK 6, EU 38.5–39, for a foot of 24.1 to 24.55 cm.
6 of 23 brands map it differently on their own charts (adidas, HOKA, Salomon and 3 more). For men’s 7, 12 of 29 brands map it differently (adidas, Golden Goose, HEYDUDE and 9 more). Check the brand you’re buying.
How 23 brands map women’s 8.5
How 29 brands map men’s 7
From each brand’s own charts, linked: the other side’s size where the chart prints it beside this one, or both sizes on one row; otherwise the row on the other chart with the same EU (or UK) size; otherwise the nearest foot length, within 3 mm. “Foot” is the brand’s own foot length for the size in the heading, where its chart gives one, not for the size it maps to. Highlighted rows differ from the standard tables. Not affiliated with any brand.
Who wears women’s 8.5 and men’s 7?
In kids’ sizes, a women’s 8.5 is a 7Y by the standard size tables. Three big-kid charts print it beside a youth size: Nike (also Jordan) 7Y, New Balance 7Y and Saucony 6Y, so a pair from the kids’ range can fit the same foot. The median child’s foot reaches this size at about 14 years, in the US Consumer Product Safety Commission’s survey of children.
The foot each brand’s own chart makes women’s 8.5 for runs from 24.6 cm (KEEN) to 25.5 cm (Dr. Martens) across 17 charts; the standard size tables make it for a foot up to 24.55 cm. Pick the brand whose foot length is at or just above yours.
- Dr. Martens 25.5 cm
- New Balance 25.5 cm
- Timberland 25.5 cm
- Saucony 25.4 cm
- Teva 25.4 cm
- UGG 25.4 cm
- SOREL 25.1 cm
- adidas 25.0 cm
- ANTA 25.0 cm
- HOKA 25.0 cm
- Nike 25.0 cm
- Salomon 25.0 cm
- Under Armour 25.0 cm
- Vans 25.0 cm
- Reebok 24.6 cm
- Clarks 24.6 cm
- KEEN 24.6 cm
From the men’s side, the foot each brand’s men’s chart makes men’s 7 for runs from 24.4 cm (KEEN) to 26.4 cm (Golden Goose) across 20 charts.
- Golden Goose 26.4 cm
- Zara 25.8 cm
- Liberty 25.7 cm
- Saucony 25.4 cm
- Teva 25.4 cm
- Fila 25.0 cm
- New Balance 25.0 cm
- Timberland 25.0 cm
- Under Armour 25.0 cm
- UGG 24.9 cm
- ANTA 24.7 cm
- SOREL 24.7 cm
- HOKA 24.7 cm
- Reebok 24.6 cm
- adidas 24.6 cm
- Clarks 24.6 cm
- HEYDUDE 24.5 cm
- Nike 24.5 cm
- Salomon 24.5 cm
- KEEN 24.4 cm
In the US Army’s 2012 ANSUR II survey of 1,986 women, 13% (262) had a foot in this size’s range, 24.1 to 24.55 cm, and 49% had a foot of 24.55 cm or shorter; of the 4,082 men, 1.4% (57) had a foot in it.
Men’s shoes are cut wider than women’s
At this length, a women’s standard width (B) is 87 mm across the ball, 11 mm narrower than men’s standard D (98 mm); the nearest men’s width is B (95 mm). For men buying women’s shoes the other way round, the nearest women’s width to men’s D is 2E (94 mm). Width letters explained.
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Women’s US 8.5 in every system
| System | Size |
|---|---|
| Foot length (cm) | 24.1–24.55 |
| US men’s | 7 |
| US kids (Y) | 7Y |
| UK | 6 |
| EU | 38.5–39 |
| Mondopoint (mm) | 245–250 |
| Japan (cm) | 24.5–25 |
From the standard size tables; where the foot range spans two sizes, both are shown.
Size tables checked 2026-10-23; brand sizes from each brand’s own charts, linked above. An estimate to help you choose: fit varies by brand and model. Not medical advice.